Razors Edge

Subject: Re: Razors Edge Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:27 pm

probally would who knows.
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Age : 26 Joined : 08 May 2008 Posts : 9

I know opinions don't matter much but reading joe's write up, he does not exactly say dave bred bulldogs into pits it says," Some breeders even included some bulldog lineage into their breeding." Some breederd not dave wilson.

I have a dog made of mostly RE. She is a great dog.

I also believe that genetics can make up any look you wish, with time and alot of effort. Hemphill dogs Started smaller and eventually got above 50-60 pounds, all genetics

Age : 50 Joined : 26 Jun 2008 Posts : 7

according to the standards of the adba the razors edge, watchdog, grapevine, etc.. dogs are too big and therefore should be classified as another breed or at least as a mixed breed cause its no secret or surprise that there is mastiff in them dogs. I try not to hate but it makes me wonder why so called "experienced' dogmen/women would stick up for these dogs and sing their praises when they are obese unhealthy looking animals that could never do what the breed is suppose to do. I know I know, in theory they are to at least look like the dogs of old even if they arent used for the same thing. Sorry for my ramblings and I mean no offense to the owners of those pitbull/clydesdale owners Im just thinking out loud.

Subject: Re: Razors Edge Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:44 am

hahahahahahahaha you cant even put Watchdog and grapevine in the same category as RE if you truly knew how Watchdog strains were supposed to look like not what some imitations are trying to put off a Watchdog/Grapevine you wouldn't be putting it down.
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Age : 27 Joined : 04 Nov 2007 Posts : 117

Well the current Watchdog line is wayyyy out of standard, but there was a watchdog standard in the earlier days that were about 30-38lb dogs on avg, very game line of dogs, but this new line of watchdogs that are about 90lbs on avg and typically blue in color is of some other mixed origin.

Subject: Re: Razors Edge Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:19 am

I pretty much agree with your statement but, alot of the old watchdogs were blue and not big dogs alot of the size your are seeing now adays are from crosses like I said such as McCoy and Winegarner.
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Age : 27 Joined : 04 Nov 2007 Posts : 117

Midnight I agree you are correct, the old school watchdog looked a lot like some of the dogs you have there on your yard not very large, and you are right the blue coat doesn't mean the dog is a cur, it's just now a lot of breeders are breeding for the blue coat and that's when it becomes a problem. Also I like your dog on the Avatar, if I were to own a larger pit bull he would be something that I would like Smile

Subject: Re: Razors Edge Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:52 am

Thank you much..... I'm sorry I got a little hostile everyone but I hate when the Watchdog Line is getting miss represented being the line I run is a Watchdog strain. I can't stand it when someone wants to put the Watchdog line in the same category as an American Bully especially ones who clearly dont know what it is supposed to look like in it's Pure form there are still several Pure Watchdog's out there that are wonderful representations of what Watchdog is really supposed to look like just gotta know where to look for it. Many people that claim their dog is just "Watchdog" bred has never even seen a pure Watchdog and many have strains/crosses not the pure thing. Pure Watchdog has become few and far between it has almost died out other then a few breeders that still breed it pure and they normally are what I call "blood hoarders" lol and aren't letting anything go to the public they have almost a family group that they place dogs with on co-owns to keep the blood from getting out here there and everywhere..
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Age : 25 Joined : 05 Jun 2008 Posts : 46

this has nothing to do with any of the recent posts but I LOVED the picture of Knuckles, Jeanie and Lil Knuckles! I've only seen of Knuckles that is on everyone's internet pedigrees so I was excited to see him as a real dog! He's so beautiful!

Here's my Razor's Edge dog:

Prison Blues Reagan Louise

Subject: Re: Razors Edge Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:09 am

She is a cutie pie Very Happy